Open Questions #4 - Diminishing Values On Outbound Links
I somehow missed this question from the Open Questions post and I can’t help but answer it.
From Adsenser
I loved your SEO empire post.
But I was wondering how much effect does a lot of links from a lot of indexed pages from the same domain have?
I always thought that the search engines looked mainly at the number of different domain linking to you.
Can you give some more info on this?
Or do you use these pages to link to a lot of different domains?
This is a fantastic opener for a conversation on sitewide outbound links affects on other sites as well as the site itself. Which has been long debated but never cleared up, not because its too complicated just because theres so many myths its hard to work the fact from the fiction. To be clear in my answer I’m going to refer to the site giving the link as the “host site” and the site receiving the link as the “target site.” Just so I don’t have to play around with too much terminology.
The entire explanation of why sitewide links, main page links, subpage links, and reciprocal links work is based off a simple SEO law called Diminishing Values. It basically states that for every link whether it be recipricol, innerlink, or outbound link there is some form of consequence. Also, for every inbound link, innerlink accepted or reciprocal link there is a benefit.
SEO Law of Diminishing Values
Diminishing Values = sum(benefits) > sum(consequences)
The need for the sum of the benefits to be greater than the sum of the consequences is essential because, as mentioned in my SEO Empire post there can’t be a negative relevancy for a site in relationship to a term. For example lets take the niche of cars. There’s a theoretical mass of car blogs. For the sake of the example we’ll say there are several thousand blogs on the subject of cars. Something in the industry happens that stirs all the bloggers such as SEMA having a car show or something. So all these car blogs blog about SEMA’s new car show coming out and give it a link. If these outbound links caused a consequence greater or equal to the valued benefit given to SEMA than all these blogs would drop in value as per the topic, cars. Thus the mass affect would be that of a negative relevancy, therefore sites with no relevancy but contain topic links would by all theory rank higher than the general census of on topic sites.
So the notion of an outbound link diminishing your sites value in equal proportion is just complete bubkiss and obviously not the way things actually work. Even if it was true and there was a compensation for on site SEO when an event in a niche happens the site hosting the event wouldn’t just rise in the rankings it would propel everyone else downwards causing more turbulence in the SERPS than what happens in actuality with just their site rising. It’s just simple SEO Theory 101, but sadly a lot of people believe it. There’s also a lot of sites that absolutely won’t link to any sites within their topic in fear that their rankings will suddenly plummet the moment they do. They’re under the greedy impression that they’re somehow hording their link value and that is in some way benefiting them. So with the assumption that an outbound link gives much more value to its target than it diminishes from its host everything in a sense balances out and outbound links become much less scary. This of course in no way says that the consequence to the host is a diminishment of any sort. It’s entire consequence could be 0 or as a lot of other people believe +X (some people think on topic outbound links actually adds to your sites relevancy). I haven’t personally seen one of my sites go up in rank after adding an outbound link but I’m open to the idea or to the future of the concept being reality.
I Practice What I Preach
The Law of Diminishing Values is one of the reasons why BlueHatSEO is one of the only SEO blogs that has all dofollow comments as well as top commentators plugin on every page. Your comments will not hurt my rankings..I’ll say that one more time Your comments will not hurt my rankings. Whewww I feel better
Back To The Question
Before we get into the meat of the question we’ll take a small scale example that we should all know the answer to.
Q: If a host site writes an automated link exchange script that automatically does thousands of link exchanges and puts those links on a single subpage and all the target sites also have their link exchange page setup the same way on a subpage. Will the host site gain in value?
A: I’ll tell you straight up from personal experience. Yes it does. It’s simple to test if you don’t believe me go for it yourself
Now we’ll move up to a much larger scale with a specific on topic example using sitewide links.
Q: If you own two 100k+ page lyric sites with lots of inbound links and very good indexing ratios, will putting a sitewide link to the other site on both raise both in value or keep them both the same?
A: Also from my personal experience, yes both will not only raise in value but they will skyrocket in value by in the upwards of 50% which can result in much higher rankings. Likewise this example can be done with any niche and any two large sites. Cross promote them with sitewide links between the two and see what happens. The results shouldn’t be surprising.
Now, on the large scale to the meat of the question.
Q: If these two lyrics site cross compared all their inbound links from other sites and managed to get all the sites that link to lyric site A to also link to lyric site B to the point at which each increased in links by 100k (same as the number of increased links would of been with a sitewide link between the two) would both sites increase in value more-so than if they did the sitewide link instead?
A: Yes absolutely. This is a bit harder to test, but if you’ve been building an SEO Empire and each site’s inbound links are from your own sites than it becomes quite a bit easier to test and I’m certain you’ll find the results the same as I did.
Conclusion
On a 1:1 ratio on a generalized population of relevant links vs non-relevant inbound links from separate domains/sites are still more effective than a sidewide link of the same magnitude. However! A sitewide link does benefit both sites to a very high degree. Just not to the degree that lots of other sites can accomplish.
Sorry that question took so long to answer. I didn’t just want to give you a blank and blunt answer. I wanted to actually answer it with logic and a reasoning that hopefully leads to an understanding of the ever so important WHY.
I couldn’t even believe my reader. You just blew my mind twice in one day. Thanks Eli.
Hey this was the cool discussion man…..
this is definitely in-depth seo discussion. thanks so much…
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That’s a good point, dude.
This is a really stupid question but what language does the script need to be in?
trmm
very nice elabored questions.
Eli, great post. I wish I came across this earlier, but still very viable information for today’s best practices. Thanks for sharing!
That’s cool. Most of the blogs are nofollow being afraid of their rankings.
You’re back! And what an excellent post. I see that you practice what you preach by having dofollow comments as well as top commentators plugin on every page to demonstrate the fact that “Your comments will not hurt my rankings”
amazing post Eli. excellent read, i will start allowing more outbound links on my site.
That had to be one of the few useful posts on SEO I’ve read. I’m tired of crappy seo blogs that regurgitate garbage. Very good post.
My thoughts exactly.
Something’s wrong with your captcha… I just wrote a long and thoughtful reply but captcha busted me. 8 + 9 does, in fact, equal 17.
I have noticed the same thing sometimes, I do a nice long reply post and it does not work. So I cut and paste each one in case this happens.
This is a bit harder to test, but if you’ve been building an SEO Empire and each site’s inbound links are from your own sites than it becomes quite a bit easier to test and I’m certain you’ll find the results the same as I did.
Thanks Eli and good to see you’re back. This is some solid SEO information that many just don’t think about, but when you read it it comes all to clear.
So after all this BS from Google, automatic link exchanges still have value after all. IF you think about it many software directories give out thousands of links and they never lose PR either so I have ot agree with your theory and keep up the good work Eli.
Thanks guys and freemp3search had a great example i wish i would of thought of with link directories and software directories.
I know I haven’t posted in awhile so in case you missed it in your rss reader there were actually two posts today. The other is located here:
https://www.bluehatseo.com/blue-hat-technique-20-cyclic-documents/
I’ve often wondered about the site-wide links issue. It always seemed to me a bit simplistic to say ’sitewide links are bad’.
I’d be interested to know your thoughts on the impact sitewide links would have on the other outbound links from the host site - would it decrease their value massively?
I was under the impression that site-wide links were now a bad factor in the big G’s eyes. Is this correct?
Great post Eli. Regarding the automated link exchange, here’s an example of a competitor of mine that offers link exchange and is doing pretty well in the SE’s: hxxp://xxx.taxhelpattorney.com .
Now the confusing part. An example of no outbound links that’s an authority site: wikipedia.
Great results, polar opposites, I need to look at this again. Anyone, any insights drop me a line at my blog, thanks.
Really nicely explained, man. You do a good job of rubbishing the misinformation out there.
@kevin
Your competitor also appears to be running an affiliate program which is a nice way to collect on-topic inbounds (assuming the aff program uses clean links and doesn’t redirect thru a middleman like CJ). A side benefit of the affiliate program is that he can also explain away some potentially nefarious linking activity by blaming it on “rogue affiliates” (assuming he ever gets called out).
Very nicely thought out and presented post Eli. I dig people that post on results they’ve tested and not just regurgitating what they’ve read. Great job.
S
@ Garrett
You are right. I have the same problem (challenge ) as him; almost all the competition in the niche iam in uses affiliate marketing. Because of all those links they rank higher. Its weird google doesn’t recognize affiliate links, but I’ll try being my own affiliate with all the tips from Eli
long time no see post. another good one to date.
http://www.nodatetonight.com
WOW, it is so nice to hear an expert say that do-follow comments DO NOT affect your rankings, there are so much misinformed and completely moronic notions flying around on this subject, and I always laugh when I hear them from those that don’t have a clue.
Everything you said makes a lot of sense, thanks!
Thanks,
JR
SEO as in everyday life is completely full of misconceptions, myths, and bullshit.
It’s nice to read a post from bluehat again!
Just subscribed to your feed.Thank you.It’s tough as a business owner trying to determine who has the right info.
Thanks.
Great post. Our blog is all DoFollow all the time too.
Awesome post. I’ve always heard that sitewide links (especially reciprical ones) are cancelled out by Google’s oversized brain.
Thanks for clearing that up.
-Brad
“I’ve always heard that sitewide links (especially reciprical ones) are cancelled out by Google’s oversized brain.”
Thanks Eli for making the experiment to clear up this question.
Good post - Thx, you just gave me an answer to an old question
Great post, Eli like usually and happy to hear from you. We are still desperately waiting for SEO Empire part 2. Can’t wait anymore
@Garrett
Thanks for checking that out and good point on the affiliate, I must do this soon. Thanks.
Great explanation of a topic many people have problems with. The only caveat I would add is to be aware there are other factors involved and overuse of any one method could cause you problems.
Good post, I just subscribed to your feed. I am not sure if I have bad information, but I am totally avoiding site-wide inbound or outbound links on all my sites now.
glad to see you active again
It comes and goes but always remain good!
Awmagad, not one, but two new posts. My feedreader is tuned to scream to me when you post, and finally it did!
Great quality as allways. Looking forward to SEO Empire part 2. What am I going to do with those million indexed pages?
Eli’s posts are awesome!
I love this site! Thank you Eli
Good post Eli.
We’ve also had good luck using sitewide links on properties we’re cross promoting, we try and blend the links into the content so they’re not overt if a competitor comes sniffing with a spam report but basically, dropping sw links is what we’re doing.
Wondered how you’re finding this tactic work on properties you don’t own. I’m hesitant to use a site that’s hosted them in the past, feel the footprints they leave are telling and devalue their potential.
Have you found this to be the case and if so, how do you evaluate a site you don’t own as a possible spot to host sw links?
I subscribed to your RSS feed a while ago and I’ve been reading through your posts. I just wanted to say thanks because I’m learning a lot from you. I still have quite a few posts to read through yet but so far, great stuff!
Joe - Peace and Serenity through Prosperity
Very interesting points you made there. I just wish other blogs would enable ‘dofollow”…
Really fantastic opener indeed! Outbound links can really affect your site negatively at times like mentioned above in the post! Excellent stuff really. I am bookmarking this page: http://delicious.com/britneyvaughan
Eli,
After starting to read your blog I went ahead and created a contend/scraper and rewriter. This bot is constantly generating completely unique human readable articles(about 95% pass the human quality control test). It is generating articles at a rate of about 4000 per day.
I also build an easily site creation tool. Simply select articles I wish to include, select a template and press create. It automatically creates the site on my domain of choice.
THe problem is I dont have the time to keep up with the bot. It is generating more articles than I can select and create sites with. SO the question:
1. Continue selecting articles about certain niches and creating sites with them when I get the time.
2. PUt the entire program on autopilot. Let it automatically randomly select 10000 articles for a site and build it. This would create sites that are not about any certain niche but be capable of mass site creation.
Which do you think is better??
Now I need to build an upward linking script!!
This post confirms what I’ve suspected. Refusing to link outwards isn’t doing the retentives any good.
Great to see you posing again and I’m really happy to finally get some trustworthy confirmation on what I thought but never was sure of.
Great information, Thank You for sharing……….
OK, so what you are saying is that putting (selling) outbound sitewide links on your site will not diminish its value. AND that receiving sitewide links will also not diminish your site’s value.
That seems to be counterintuitive to what I belive. I have been of the mindset to stay away from sitewide links because they tend to get you penalized more easily. Now I know for a fact (from experience at an old employer) that too many inbound links at the same time from a sitewide can and will penalize you.
I would love to hear more from you on this and swap stories!
Actually I never said there is no value drop for giving a sitewide link. I just said it wasn’t as much of a drop as the value that it gives. There is a consequence for placing a sitewide link. Although that consequence could be large to none at all. It’s just never greater than the benefit the other sites recieves. Also following the rule that no inbound link can hurt you no sitewide link can hurt you. There used to be a sandbox but that wasn’t necessarily a penalty for too many links, it was just a time buffer to test your site’s quality out. There is definitely no penalty that I’ve ever seen from too many links at once to a quality site.
To list an extreme example. I just recently this year got a sitewide link on collegehumor (2m+ links within two weeks) to a brand new site and it was a huge benefit. Never a penalty.
Really nice! two million links in two weeks! you never cease to amaze me
2 million links is insane, here i am scrabbling for a few hundred?
Eli, this is great news, everything I was reading said the opposite of your post! Thanks for keeping us properly informed!
JJ
Atlantic City, NJ
As always he seems to advocate an opposite theory than everyone else.
Thanks for the useful information
i’m interested it
that guy also has a kick ass domain. I mean taxhelpattorney.com, trust me it doesnt even get better than that.
Thanks man! Some times I can’t help wondering if the vast majority of SEO people have gone completely mad regarding “slipping out link juice” etc. etc. This is the internet! The very way it works speaks for the truth in your posting!
Great to see new posts on here Eli. And I still love looking back at the older info here too.
Excellent point if no one ever linked to anyone else then where would we be … Hey maybe lets do that and see how Google reacts remove all links from all sites
We really should start a campaign to get Wordpress to be Do-Follow by default. So many people start blogging without even knowing that they are a no-follow blog. I mean this should be a choice and not on by default.
I have not only added the Do-Follow plugin but also Keyword Luv and Comment Luv. My commentators should love me off lol.
hola Amigo. will echo the sentiments, nice to see you back again, especially as a recent winner of our best seo blog awards..
coincidentally we run dofollow on both blogs and recent comments from all pages also.
one question tho, what exactly does “loving you off” mean? not sure were up for that
kev@seoibiza
Ahaa, This is cool post, It has cleared bit of my doubts regarding outbound links. Thanks for Share.
Thank’s for sharing a very good post. This is highly informative.
You mentioned cross linking sites with 100k pages. I assume these are sites created by scripts.
I run a few hand written sites, which are well regarded by Google (all at page one). The sites have between 200-300 pages.
Do you think it would benefit me if I placed sitewide links at these sites pointing to another site that I want to promote?
Two points here: first, 100k anchor texts can have an effect much larger than 300 pages; second, you can risk loosing an auto generated site, but you can’t do the same with a 300 page site.
Thanks,
I am happy to see you posting again. Why is it that I have ALWAYS heard the contrary to what you just explained - even from supposed SEOs (of all types)?
Awesome eye-popping post. I’ve been diving deeper into SEO and your blog provides some great info - very much appreciated.
Woow, the post was something! At first I can understand your point so I need to read it twice. I just want to inform you that I print a hard copy of this topic so I can read and understand it carefully. Thanks!
Excellent next question, let’s try it in real life and web
Hey Eli … thanks for the post, I’ve been in the game for years and was under the “law of diminishing values” misconception you were referring to.
Since we’re talking about the value of site wide links, I’ve got a quick question I’ve always wondered about and never had the chance to test as there are a ton of variables (no control) when dealing with site wide links.
Would site wide links be considered site wide links if the link and anchor text change on every page?
For example, say you have 2 db driven sites, 1 centered around doctors from every state and city in USA. Another site sells cars and also has a page for every state/city in US. Thanks to a little php, you can strip the city/st from the url and rewrite the url & anchor text for each link so no 2 links are identical.
Is this beneficial? Do search engines still recognize this as a site wide link since they are all going to the same domain? Is this better at preventing spammy anchor text than just randomizing the words?
that is another very informative article.
i have two sites in the same niche and was afraid to sitewide them to each other. i think i will give it a try after reading this.
sorry i meant 4 sites within the same niche.
I have 2 or 3 questions on site wide links
1. Is it wise to put like 5 sitewide links pointing to 5 important internal pages of another site or would it be better and more profitable to put links to 5 different domains?
2.Is it wise to have multiple anchor texts on these links? (As asked by net-work )
Good post - this is a concept that I’ve always wondered about, yet unfortunately never really experimented with.
The Law of Diminishing Values makes perfect sense though, and I like the example with car blogs.
Very good article, cleared up some misconceptions for me. It’s good to know healthy linking won’t hurt you.
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Thanks Eli, great post as always. Your blog is by far the most useful information resource there is. Thanks again.
Writing Ezine Articles
Tnx for this cool post!
Glad to see you’re pack posting Eli!
I’m curious about if you have multiple sites that are being hosted on the same server, but on different domains. For instance, with your lyrics site, would those links count for much if the SE knows that both sites are on the same server, and even if they have the same WHOIS data?
Another question for the lyric site example. Aren’t reciprocal links worth very little now? So would you see much effect from that?
Thanks, and good to see some new posts!
This is a very enlightening post. It got me thinking, and maybe you already answered it in the post but I couldn’t get it in these terms - but what about targeted linking from non-relevant sites?
For Example:
Site A is a software directory and Site B is a lyric directory. Site A and Site B each have 100k+ subpages. If Site A had 1k+ pages of “lyric software” subpages and Site B had no subpages related to software, then would the total effect of inbound links to Site B from Site A be greater than Site B’s links to Site A?
Nice post, well presented and i understood it. Thanks
Thanks for answering my question!
Your definitely the best SEO blog I know.
You really inspire me to do more SEO instead of doing only ppc.
Great post with a lot of good information in it. I like that you included in the Q and A portion that you answered with personal experiences involved. It reiterates some thoughts with outbound linking.
great post i really like that…
I am in the camp that both internal and external links are vital to increasing placements and part of that is the ability for search engine to decipher true links from manufactured links. Its just to what level does Google go to determine that line. As an seo services company, we always get asked to what the future is in SEO. In my mind, it is Latent Semantic Indexing and how sites will need to embrace these notions when constructing their category taxonomies. What an interesting space!
Very Informative. I am trusting you on the dofollow doesn’t hurt. I have read the opposite from some “experts” recently. Going to bookmark your site, its tough to determine the truth from someone just chasing traffic and spewing out what they have heard.
I did not say that! Reread the article pls.
Building relevant links are keys to our success.
Thats a great article when you consider that some people are trying to sell their forum signatures for $XXXX on some sites.
Nice, thanks for speaking out about dofollow. It gets on my nerves how many sites are nofollow. Why? Its pretty much pointless.
nice post i really like it…
nice and easy source of income…
Link building is the hardest fight in SEO. It is hard to find good quality sites with same topic ready to link to you. But it is worthy.
If you study well enough you will find some
I’m glad you endorse tactics that naive SEOs stay away from for no legitimate reason. good post.
I recently shut off my nofollow on comments to test this. It seems a lot of major SEO experts are starting to backtrack on the outbound links sucking link juice theory. Of course, since I’ve shut off no follow I’ve had to deal with a little bit more moderation. But, I’m hoping in the long run it helps more than it hurts.
I have a good feeling it will.
Hi, Good to see some activity onthe site. Great post. Makes one think of all the links that one is chasing and wonder why they make it sound so complicated.
Very great article. Slow on my comment, but still being used. Just grabbed the link and article for a friend to read. Keep it up, Eli.
This is a really nice plugin, a bit like something I use already but with some nice extrea ideas, thanks.
I agree with you. It is rubbish to think that giving out links from one’s site will diminish their sites link value.
This is a great post as it really dispels the myth of link having lower value if they exchange in same niche.
Nice stuff. Thank you. Really important.
while i agree with most of your blog post, im not sure how effective linkpages are at the moment
i am agree with of your blog post…
this is a great post i really like that…
nice extra ideas thanks…
i agree with you…
very great article…
quick indexting tool…
Why don’t you say what you gotta say all at once Jackass.
guess its time to get those link exchanges going again
someone else who agrees, it all builds up authority, passing links out to relevent sites, rather than just holding all link juice into your site
just out of interest, what affiliate companies offer proper links rather than redirected ones? preferably in the uk
I totally agree. it’s all about having authority.
Good post and very complicated even though you’re trying to dumb it down for us. Seems like Google has a bunch of mathematicians working for them. I guess they can afford it but it just makes the whole algorithm seem like wizardry for us simple folk.
I am in outsourcing business and sometimes it goes difficult to convince a client about these things. You have explained all the subject in most suitable manner. Thanks for sharing your valuable knowledge with us.
This makes me feel alot better about outbound links. I don’t like being stingy with my juice.
Well, my tests gave similar results… Still outbound links to RE agencies websites help us a lot.
wow. it’s good to see an seo post which actually has some evidence to back up a particular statement. cool.
Great post! You explained this in much detail that even I could understand. I thought it was common knowledge that a pages PR would be passed through the links on the page, whether inbound or outbound. I didn’t realize that people thought the host could diminish in value due to those links.
Thanks for debunking this SEO myth for all of us.
Alan Mater
This is some good stuff. Links are what build up the web and some would say that outbound links hurt your site. This is partly true. If you are a new site and link to an authority in your niche it will do you some good over just linking out to anyone.
Another great post, I learn more from this blog than all other blogs combined. I’m working through each post trying to filter and understand. Great stuff!
Here’s a questions what if you create an outbound post on for each post on a blog along with links out on each summary of a post showing in the archives, home page, etc. That would be multiple links on many pages. Is that going to impact you negatively, positively, or neutrally?
Hi Eli great post great to see a professional SEO expert say that dofollow comments won’t take away from your juice, hope you don’t find if I quote you and link to you on a couple so called SEO experts that say otherwise
If I’m working to get a smaller site initially indexed, I’ve noticed that some of the SEs favor the URLs that have outbound links to high PR pages. These get indexed first - but they don’t necessarily get higher PR or SERPs themselves.
Anyway, about dofollow, I run all my blogs and Pligg sites with nofollow disabled and I have no complaints about traffic or revenue… The key I’ve seen is just to not link to any penalized sites or ‘bad neighborhoods.’
Great post Eli. I’m going to follow your example and enable dofollow on my blogs now.
Nice post. It’s good to see some real logic and sound thinking!
Very interesting thinking, definitely a bit outside the box of accepted knowledge. I’ve always bought in to the net plus / net minus value of links on a site, based on something from Matt Cutts I got in the past. It would make sense though for relevant outbound links to provide value, after all… content is king. And worthwhile outbound links provide value to site visitors as valuable content. Thanks for the post.
Just wondering, will you be posting anything similiar to this in the future? I would like to read a little bit more on this. Thanks for sharing the post though!
So Eli, in your conclusion you stated:
“On a 1:1 ratio on a generalized population of relevant links vs non-relevant inbound links from separate domains/sites are still more effective than a sidewide link of the same magnitude.”
So then is there any difference between getting a relevant or non-relevant link to my site(s)? Such as the link that is now included here is from a ’seo’ site, yet it is going to my ‘plant’ site. I’m going on the “a link is a link is a link” theory that all links provide some effect, however, would this link be more effective if my site was about ’seo’?
I’ve been shooting myself in the foot for a long time by not using sitewide links from one of my web properties to another. Thanks for helping me see the light.
So true, nice to see people making blog posts that are actually correct, there is no such thing as dilution as long as the link is not to a bad neighborhood, a perfect example of this would be pr5 to pr8 directories that have thousands of outbound links.
Thanks for clearing the matter up once and for all. I’ve read so many articles that keep stressing on the claim that having outbound links with dofollow tags will drain your Page Rank, viz a viz your importance to Google. The above example of online directories is a great example.
Thanks for your explanation. Great post, I’ll try it
Thanks for the elaboration.I further understand the value of outbound links
The main reason why outbound links are less important is that it is easy to do and cheaper. You can just submit your site to most high-PR websites and you think you’re on? definitely there are still a lot of polishing and 20 outbound links were just comparable to 1 inbound link.
Outbound links does make a post more useful, it also makes a boring post more interesting.
Thank you for clearing this up - I just discovered your site and can’t wait to read every post of it!
Annette
http://www.pollywogbaby.com
I think it’s a shame that Google has such a masive impact on sites traffic and the algo is so secret and dyamic that webmasters etc have to spend a lot of time doing stuff just to get higher rank. I’m not blaming them, they have to do it.
If sites were rewarded for being useful then the web would be better because all this energy could actually be spent on making sites more usable or useful or pretty or cool.
Eli,
Just found your blog. Great article. The do-follow has been addressed so many times before, incorrectly of course! So much so that I deactivated my do-follow plug-ins. Now I am going to go back and reactivate them.
I definitely need to take some time to go back and read some of your other posts. Seems you have a lot of knowledge as far as SEO and I am looking for some great information from someone who knows the facts.
wew,i’ve been thinking bout did i supposed to make my blog use doFollow or not, and stumbled at your article,not many of those site i’ve visit that stated dofollow give more benefit than nofollow, most of them just says,it will draw more spam, n therefore affect your rank, thx anyway, great post
Thanks Eli I’ve been wondering about this for some time.
Fantastic post. Been reading through your entries these last few weeks and realised just how much i’ve got to learn.
Thanks,
James
Namecake
Great posts. I love all the great info i get here.
Love it. Thanks much.
allian
The post was cool. It’s one of those few posts that are useful and relevant and stick to their SEO guns. I’m fed up by obsolete SEO blogs that seem to recycle SEO garbage. Keep it up!
had to read it a couple of times but it makes great sense as an advanced linking strategy-right wher i’m at. thanks
Its always cool to see people who know what they’re talking about telling it like it is.
where did this idea that sitewide links don’t work come from anyway?
A very intelligent post. I’ve done a good deal of linking research, and I agree with you.
People and Gurus say that owtbound Linking Is worthless and basically they are true to a large extent,but I’m pretty skeptical about It not being included in Search engine Alog’s,I think they have always been included in calculations of search engines.
Glad that I found your site. I found a lot of interesting points here. Great job.
So afterwards all this BS from Google, automated hotlink exchanges still accept amount afterwards all. If you anticipate about it abounding software directories accord out bags of links and they never lose PR either so I accept ot accede with your approach and accumulate up the acceptable plan Eli.
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Thank you very much
I visited the blog and found much new for me,good experience to share with the other people and a great chance to master new knowledge.
Hi, it;s a great article. I’ve made a little linking research, and at this moment I agree with you.
That helped clear up a lot. Your right so much myth and myth on top of myth it’s hard to know what to believe.
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Very interesting points you made there. I share your opinion.
I’ll Test your theory of Diminishing Values and if they are follow tags and you worry not of comments foreclosing your shop….you won’t mind a quick pillage? If so plz delete the comment…This is for my best friend…..Go BG
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Your site is awesome and I always enjoy reading your articles - Gratuitous Respect - Dubs
linking to sites related to your can boost you rank
It’s funny how I’ve been doing SEO for many of my sites and I’ve never thought that adding relevant outbound links can actually help my ranking.
I’ll test it and see how it goes.
Thanks for the tip.
Andy
Interesting article! I always thought that have outbound links hurt a page when it comes to rankings. This is why on my static sites I use nofollow on all pages the are irrelevant such as about me page and contact us etc.
Thanks for the great posts. I’m removing all my nofollow links.
I removed all the nofollow tags off my site and will track the results. Thanks for the article.
Great explanation! Finally somebody who gives you a clear, logic answer on this issue. I will test your theory to see if it works.
Nice article. I had always thought the opposite on site-wide links but I’ll have to give this a try.
I go through you blog word by word,what a honest straight to the point opinion.Thanks..
I’m really inspired by this blog.
Great post eli. Very much to the point and great info. I really like the way you explain yourself in every post on this site.
Thanks to sitewide link exchanges I managed to get to the top10 in Google in quite a competitive market. So, it does work.
How much time have you spent writing these posts? This must be the most useful advanced seo guide on the web.
This was probably one of the best written link building seo explanations I have ever read. Thank you for posting. You blog has officially just gave me enough reason to finally install the computer screen in front of my toilet to switch over from reading magazine on the throne. I will definitely be back. As I was one of those link hoarders. You have just converted me. I would link out only to very credible sources. Now I will be a little more free with my linking.
Really great post,through it’s hard for me to read this long post,I can get some fresh concepts,thanks again.
So what you’re saying is that outbound links really have no effect on a page’s rank?
Crazy world when 5million webmasters thing the contrary to this 5million agree with you and 200million don’t know what to think.
Would be best it everyone just concentrated their time and effort on creating webpages that people wanted to link to because they were excellent and didn’t have to worry about the whole page rank thing.
Brilliant post –>> as long as it turnes out to be the truth
In any case - I can smell that your thinking is based on a lot more realistic structure than a lot of the blogs out there. There is something like a ‘old and new testament’ in SEO too - A lot of people are still struggling with static ‘chisseld in stone’ regulations while some are moving on in greater realms of reality. You seem to be talking like one of the latter group… in SEO that is
The biggest problem is link spam when you have dofollow on your blog.
Have been a lot of east europeans spammers on my site lately …
But otherwise a good comment contribute to the quality of the blog and the domaine - so a dofollow is in order in that case!
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Well dofollow is fine, but it attracts a lot of link spammers. Had some east european link spammers on my blogs last week.
I wonder how long Google will use links from blogs in the ranking of sites - there sure are a lot of junk comments.
Anyhow a good comment deserves a follow.
great article, it’s nice to listen to someone who knows what he’s talking about. i will bookmark you
which is the best back link cheker?
heh, what have I been studying till now?
I believe in having both relevant and irrelevant outbound links.After all, it’s link to your site!Thanks for your article!
I noticed a big difference in ranking and traffic after impementing sidewide links. Great post by the way!
Yes, Google is not really diminishing value for outgoing links.
thanks for this nice info
What you say is very true.
Hmm, interesting, and certainly much more accurate than a lot of the garbage going around at the forums.
“I practice what I preach” - I like that
Keyword Luv is a very nice little plugin which I’ve been using and I recommend that every blogger also use it.
I was under the impression that site-wide links were now a bad factor in the big G’s eyes. Is this correct?
I always thought this but never did any experiments like you did Eli. More posts!
I guess it makes sense. I’ll have to try that.
Just what I was looking for, will be taking more tips from you webmaster
so if there are (some) consequences of one-way dofollow links, how come you saying they won’t hurt your site?
Amazing post, thanks.
Awesome post, thanks
our main site is flash based (cursed photography websites) so we do most SEO through our blog. this post was EXTREMELY helpful as i’ve been struggling with posting outbound links. it feels kind of snobby to not give the link love. so, thanks! i’ll be following you for sure!
This is basic economics…the more you got coming in should always exceed what goes out or you end up bankrupt(in this case PRrupt!)
Wow it was great to have you answer those questions, and give us a very detailed analysis in regards to outbound links, and the loss they may have, etc.
Quite informative article. Gives new thoughts to focus upon regarding site-wide inbound and outbound links.
Thanks for the post.
Good to know that in linking to sites within my own business field, I’m not doing myself any harm.
Ta very much
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as a beginning seo noon this article was awesome
Linking to relevant sites is never harmful. As a matter of fact, there should be linking out as well as linking in.
Great post fo0r the beginner.
Very nice post.
Thanks for the sharing
It may be punished by Google when you applied cross promotion.
Hi,
Amazing information.
This is really beneficial for beginners.
I really admire this post.
Thanks for sharing.
Hi,
Interesting post.
This information clears a lot of doubts regarding SEO.
I think back links never hurts your site and its helpful for ranking of your site.
Thanks.
Hi,
I just started doing SEO for my website.
I think the guidelines mentioned are really helpful for me.
I will definitely try to adopt this.
Thanks for sharing.
if the total PR of all pages online is 1… and its a zero sum system, then there has to be winners and losers when people link to other sites.
“Your comments will not hurt my rankings..”
And what will be the effect is somebody links in your comment to a pharmacy/adult/banned site. Will it still not hurt your rankings by linking out to bad neighbourhood?
This was an excelent article, I have bookmarked your page and look forward to more great articles.
This is an excellent written article which has been rewarded by being bookmarked.
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Hi,
Wow it was great to have you answer those questions, and give us a very detailed analysis in regards to outbound links, and the loss they may have.
Thanks.
How refreshing to read SEO posts by someone who knows what he is talking about, there are so many myths about NoFollow links.
it depends….some people say that links is link..and other…that only good link have a value…
Hey
I always thought massively interlinking your sites was a bad thing. I have about 6 websites in the same niche but don’t link any of them as I always thought it would be bad (they are on the same server)
Based on this topic, if I were to sitewide link to them all I would see a massive boost in rankings.
So what do I do?
1. Link them all up
2. Link only certain ones
3. Move them all to separate servers then link them
4. Something else?
I would really appreciate an accurate answer on this
Thanks
Google can see affiliated sites with site wide links like a footer link. They discount the link juice value of those links since they know its the same person linking to themselves. Unless you get very tricky with registrations, hosting, etc… It is hard to not get those site wide links discounted.
WOW, it is so nice to hear an expert say that do-follow comments DO NOT affect your rankings, there are so much misinformed and completely moronic notions flying around on this subject, and I always laugh when I hear them from those that don’t have a clue.
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Linking has always been an issue. Will you get slapped or blessed by Big G? The last I heard was outbound authority links are good because they provide content to the reader and that is one of the big criteria Google uses.
True you practice what you preach! I couldn’t believe this post appearing on the second page of a very competitive keyword that is not SEO related.
Very nicely thought out and presented post. I think the guidelines mentioned are really helpful for me.
I will definitely try to adopt this.Thanks for sharing this great post…..
I think it can but im not certain.
Interesting I am trying to find the follow links directory any hints?
Great post - Thanks for the good info
Great blog is on the top for ever.
What a thought you presented! It is really impressive.
What a marvelous ideas! keep posting ……..Thanks
I look forward to you next post. Thanx
Ahh. The no-follow (or do follow) debate never ends. Nice contribution.
Your spot on with the points you have made in this article. Thanks
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I prefer linking only to the sites that I trust and I consider authority sites. You may confuse your readers if you have irrelevant links on your site.
That’s the very first time that I’ve heard outbound links will help your SEO. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for such an informative post, its nice to see someone who actually does practice what they preach. I have following your blog for some time and this is definitely one eye opening informative post…please keep them coming
Outbound links to respected sites in particular seem to be very effective in getting Google’s attention.
I will say that this is also the first time I’ve heard of outbound links helping your SEO. The note about sitewide links on lyrics sites is also of interest. Those sites literally have 100k+ pages. That is where sitewide links definitely can help.
Absolutely an amazing article. I’ve been looking around to see specifically this answer. I thought for awhile now that nofollow isn’t a good practice to use.
Thanks for this post. It’s really useful!
That is where sitewide links definitely can help.
Thanks for this post. It’s really useful!
I should say that you give good information about outbound links for other. thanks
Thanks for the post, it has changed my mind on the way I will run my blog.
great post …
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thanks for tactics. i’ll try it
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I’m learning different SEO Tactics almost a year now. I’ve been diving deeper into SEO and your blog provides some great info - very much appreciated. Absolutely an amazing article. I’ve been looking around to see specifically this answer. I thought for awhile now that nofollow isn’t a good practice to use.
I think I am understanding what you are saying.
The problem I am having is finding a method whereby people will link with my site because of its content, and not because of any internal or external benefit of the link itself.
That is, if I understand the pure purpose of linking to a site to begin with, it is to have readily available articles or data that are valuable to one’s business, hobby or family.
For example, if I am a dentist, I might want to link my site to a dental technique research site, not with the thought of increasing or decreasing my search engine ranking, but rather to make sure I stay current with my profession.
So, the big reference sites get a lot of that kind of love.
It is the guy who is attempting to market something that is being marketing by tens of thousands or perhaps millions of people who has the problem of encouraging others to take the time and make the effort to link to his or her site.
Why would they do it?
As a matter of fact, I think the data shows that people won’t do it unless there is real informational value on a site OR, there is cross linking going on by agreement having nothing to do with the value of the sites involved themselves.
For me, that kind of technique has the potential of undermining the purpose of a search engine to begin with. That is, a search engine needs to have the goal of bringing to the public’s attention the sites best able to answer a question or solve a problem for a consumer.
If the search engine is duped by cross linking having nothing to do with the intrinsic value of a site, how is that good for the consumer?
On the other hand, we might make an assumption that the sites with the most links, regardless of how they came to be, is the best for the public.
I find that to be a difficult proposition to accept.
However, it may be true. I just don’t know.
I always thought that the only benefit of outbound links was for your site visitor.
First time I read about BLUE SEO )) Was good.
only SEO blogs that has all dofollow comments as well as top commentators plugin on every page. ….
I wanted to comment about your question you answered regarding 2 sites with each are pointing to each other. I see this kind of marketing all the time… Especially lawyer sites… A lawyer gets one website with his own domain johnsmithlawyer.xyz for example and then he starts another site with the keywords in it minneapolisaccidentlawyer.xyz and then he pounds links between them… It works like a dream… you see both sites on page#1 and a backlink check reveals most of the inbound links come from the other site…it is used all the time…
Thanks for the great info…
nice and easy, definitely can help
Great article for one of the fundamentals of SEO.
Great article on seo. There are many misconceptions about seo and internet marketing and you have explained a few of them to be untrue on your post.
Setting up two sites with appropriate domain names and setting up multiple links between the two can work short term, but adding more and more reciprocal links between the two will eventually be picked up by the bots, especially if they’re on the same ip, but eventually, even if they’re not.
We had one “competitor” who used this technique qith a promise to “pay us when you’re on page 1″, which happened. The client paid up happily, then two or three months down the line, they were blacklisted by Google.
We then went in, at the request of the local BusinessLink, contacted by the client in panic, to clean up the mess and sort it out long term with white hat SEO.
All I’m saying is, best be cautious with this technique.
Thanks for the information. Your example about car blogs and SEMA convinced me that this SEO is a science that is really way over my head.
I always thought that the only benefit of outbound links was for your site visitor.
I always thought that the only benefit of outbound links was for your site visitor.
The search engines want to give the best value they can to visitors to your site or any other. If they think your site is more valuable to a visitor’s needs, it’ll rank above it (given all else is equal). If outbound links relate to something relevant and useful to visitors, they’ll help your site.
non-relevant link will help too
Good to know outbound comments won’t hurt you and this can be seen by your PR. Thanks for the info.
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The most common remark to my tweet was that people thought it was mainly to do with a change in the way that bloggers viewed other blogs in their niche.
I love to read your posts.
i heard about blackhat, or whitehat SEO, but bluehat? this is first time i heard about it
I always thought that the only benefit of outbound links was for your site visitor. For betsson24
Great post! Information is very usefull.
Nice post! Good info.
It is true that practice what you preach! I could not believe that this entry does not appear on the second page of a very competitive keyword is not SEO related.
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Thank you for clearing this up - I just discovered your site and can’t wait to read every post of it!
Hi,
Thanks for this article, it’s made for an easy read!
Regards
Dan
your answers are clear and straight thanks.
your answers are clear and straight thanks.
Stumbled across this post. How old is this post? FOr most businesses it’s better to target long term profit and many techniques described are most likely to be devalued by Google in the near future or already have been devalued.
Currently Google pays much more attention to authority of the link, not to the number of links.
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You’re back! And what an excellent post. I see that you practice what you preach by having dofollow comments as well as top commentators plugin on every page to demonstrate the fact that “Your comments will not hurt my rankings”
Hello,
Thanks for the article some very good points.
All the best,
Daniel
Thanks for such an informative post, its nice to see someone who actually does practice what they preach.
Great post, thanks.
i’ve seen case studies that prove both ways. In general it seems the more domains the better.
All this SEO can be too much and for every bit i read i just keep hoping that there will pop up a few competitors to google.
Even if this might have been overkill to me I liked the post and will definitely keep scrolling down to read some more.
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Useful post, very informative. A good related outbound link can significantly help the host site, but i believe outbound link should not be too much on a page.
I agree with this theory and think anyone who’s not willing to link to other blogs within the same niche is blogging for the wrong reasons. Being affected negatively in the SERPS for linking to another site, just doesn’t make any sense.
Creating this web of links is one of the best ways to gain rankings for sure. People underestimate this concept by searching for various keywords in various niches. When if they search for various keywords within the same niche, pick a few, build a site around each one, and link them together works great.
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Very nice analysis. Very informative & helpful.
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thanks a lot for such a wonderful reading and also not to mention a wonderful questions and answers. Keep up the good work.
wow, thanks you so much for all the informative data. It help cleared some of my thoughts which kept on bugging me if I did it correctly or not.
Yeah, that’s a dandy of an article…SEO empire was a real sweetie too!
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Thanks so much for this post! I now have a solid understanding of linking.
Thanks for this article, it’s made for an easy read!
My internal links for my site was at 510 and recently dropped to 107. While my Indexed Pages does say 530 (in webmaster tools).
I’m just wondering if this is just temporary, and will be re-updated and fixed. I know with new websites, it can fluctuate kind of randomly for no reason.
Really useful information for me
Excellent post with lots of good info its refreshing to find someone who actually does what the talk about doing. I am not a programmer and would be very interested in seeing an example of the “automated link exchange script that automatically does thousands of link exchanges” that you spoke of. That would be something I’d be interesting in trying on my Jacksonville Handymansite.
Good quality seo article and you do practice what you preach - I’ve watched and admired your site for ages. And … may I add offered sensible advice, and not radical black hat stuff.
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Very nice post and good discussion about search engine optimization.
can’t believe i missed this article 2 years ago. ha! and still generating comments and readers. nice.
any thoughts on whether the shared info is still 100% relevant?
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I am thankfull to this article and author to provide good suggestion about seo. thanxxxx.
Cant believe that this article is over 2 years old and that I missed it. Either way, everything explained in it is still relevant today.
I just love outbounds links..!
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A very informative SEO article, thank-you.
Very helpful information about links and seo
Thanks for sharing .
I like your articles,so I will attention about your blog.
Thanks a bunch. Ran across this excellent post when I was googling for these links. Cheers
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Wow, this is encouraging! There are plugins out for Wordpress too that make it a great way to encourage more comments and reader participation.
Thanks a bunch. Ran across this excellent post when I was googling for these links. Cheers
thanks for giving me such useful and great technique,this will help me in future.
thanks again!
Incredible seo post. I wish I had found it sooner.
Thanks
That clarifies many things….
I plan to make some experiments to prove your advices.
very interesting post as I never purchased links site wide as I thought I would be banned but if you got 2 million in 2 weeks thats fantastic. I always used the drip affect 5-10 per day.
Ya even i thought same thing , but week ago read this and has started using i have bought 3,4 links for my health blog thanks eli for sharing useful info.
WOW, it is so nice to hear an expert say that do-follow comments DO NOT affect your rankings, there are so much misinformed and completely
Very nice sharing.thanks.
Thanks very much for this article, was very intereting to read
The information you provided was very useful. Because of your help, thank you.
Retrieving more links at one time like that would be cool. Striking down one egg!
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Thank you for clearing the topic. The only way to make the internet a good resource for information is to link your site or page to a good source relevant to your topic. Google does not only counts how many links are pointing to your site but also looks on how your site is contributing in the sharing of valuable content so don’t be afraid to spread link love.
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Thanks for this, I’ve often wondered this myself, and I’m glad I was able to find this article.
This information is really good to know,thanks for sharing!
haven’t heard this before about diminishing returns, interesting stuff.
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Great post, congs.
I had to read and re-read the post to understand it, but now that I’ve read it a third time, I agree with your conclusions. I have cross-promoted site-wide links on my network of webkinz cheats sites and it helps with indexing speed, along with an instant PR boost. With the reciprocal link, when Google analyzes again, there is even more PR going back to the original site!
Great article, i’ve been doing SEO on all my sites, and never thought about outbound links or site-wide links.
Thanks again
Don
that was really cool post up there which is really full of information, complete and comprehensive and if you really follow these all steps as it is given you will be successfull…
Thanks for updating latest information in this page.
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I think it’s pretty hilarious that you let all these spam comments, go dofollow (including this one)
This information is really good to know,thanks for sharing!
Hi,
I’m new to SEO, thanks for sharing this post.
Kind regards
Massive numbers of internal links also give you a great opportunity to add key-word rich anchor tags, likely with a few variations and alternatives, which will increase the SERPs for the target pages for those keywords.
The most common remark to my tweet was that people thought it was mainly to do with a change in the way that bloggers viewed other blogs in their niche.
Thanks for tips, it does makes a lot of sense that outbound links are important, it just something you tend to forget
Thanks, your seo info is great and very useful
Will try these steps next time i am doing a bit seo to sites i have built.
I am not a programmer and would be very interested in seeing an example of the “automated link exchange script that automatically does thousands of link exchanges” that you spoke of.
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Just got through reading your article all the way through. It’s funny because I had been wondering about site-wide linking and whether there was value in it. I stumbled on this from seomoz comment and almost didn’t check out the link. I’m really glad I did. Thanks for clearing up some really great questions I had.
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Some interesting comments, thank-you.
My blog is also DO-follow for exactly the same reasons. Only thing is, I moderate ruthlessly so that I do not get the usual blog spam, mostly from people that have not even read the post in question. But valuable contributions get their link… and also help my blog.
I totally agree. it’s all about having authority.
Very helpful information about links and seo building
Great information, keep up the good work here.
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Just got through reading your article all the way through. It’s funny because I had been wondering about site-wide linking and whether there was value in it.
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I must admit this post is a whole new prospective of looking at links.
I’ve been using do-follow links on my blog too for over a year now - what does no-follow even really mean these days. Its not as hard and fast as is used to be, no-follow means more like “maybe you should follow, maybe you shouldn’t, why don’t you find out for yourself mr google”
Thank you for this post, trough this you had open my mind about “linking”.
This is a very thorough writing on this topic thank you for taking the time to post it.
Thanks for the tips, will give it a go
Helpful information about links. Everyone needs as much help as they can gain. This helped clear up some things.
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Everyone seems obsessed with links when we should be using that time to make great websites.
if you think about if many software directories give out hundreds of thousands of links and they never lose PR either. I agree with you.
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I dont understand how this is blue hat ?
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Almost everyone is talking about inbound linking as more effective SEO tool. Thanks for the tips!
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I’ve been having problem lately about this outbound links. I don’t really know what is it and its function in SEO. I guess I’ll be reading your posts for me to gain more knowledge about optimizing a website. Glad I’ve made it here.
Useful information and tips
I don’t know that I would say it has too much of a diminished value. It seems that it has remained fairly static, it’s just that other factors are so much more important. I would never not have some relevant outbound links.
I also wanted to add that if you are wanting to add useful links on your site for visitors and not necessarily additions for ranking or authority I would definitely nofollow those bad boys.
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I had to read and re-read the post to understand it, but now that I’ve read it a third time, I agree with your conclusions. I have cross-promoted site-wide links on my network of club penguin sites and it helps with indexing speed, along with an instant PR boost. With the reciprocal link, when Google analyzes again, there is even more PR going back to the original site!
I read the post thoroughly and I liked it a lot. It is very useful information. Thanks a lot.
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I wonder how long Google will use links from blogs in the ranking of sites - there sure are a lot of junk comments
Excellent next question, let’s try it in real life and web
Thanks for excellent advice..
I have read your post and now i am totally agree and now Eli i can add more outbound links to my site…
Thank’s for suggesting us this wonderful note to get more traffic and pr.
I got it is rally helpful to get outbound links on our site for getting higher PR..
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I have heard that if a site links to a related site that is considered an authority source of information it can actually enhance that site in the search engine. So there may be exceptions to this rule of every action having a conesequence.
The value of outbound links has long been gone. Inbound links is the one that SEO needs and that’s what optimizers want.
I was aware from Red, black and white hat SEO ..good to know more about blue hat ..good job keep it up.
Nice views.. it’s been a long time since I have gone through such discussion. But I don’t entirely agree with all the views expressed here. But most of them do matter and it’s a great enlightenment to the beginners in SEO.
Good read, thanks for the info about outbound links
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I completely agree with Eli on this one.
By the way, much better on the capcha.
Anyways, I think the problem resides in the changing algorithms for big search engines. The problem is that people have come to fear the competition instead of sharing the wealth of information.
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Agree that if a host site writes an automated link exchange script that automatically does thousands of link exchanges the host site does gain in value. Seen it done many times
Thanks
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Thanks for this info… I’m a newbie with SEO… So this definitely helps… I’m out searching for more info… There’s just so many resources online, sometimes you just can’t decide where to go… Thanks again…
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Yes, Google is not really diminishing value for outgoing links.
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What about the diminishing returns on inbound links as well, many so-called permanent links get removed.
Hi, I’m a first-time reader/commenter, so forgive me if I ask something that you’ve already clarified. You mentioned that comments do not hurt your rankings, but what about being vulnerable to spam? Doesn’t that hurt the general nature of your blog? Or do you hand-pick the good from the bad before making the comments public?
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I’m still trying to figure out the whole backlinks and inbound and outbound thing. It seems like the weight of things with Google rankings changes so rapidly that posts on the topic that are actually relevant are difficult to find. Thanks for the info! Werd.
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Yes, Google is not really diminishing value for outgoing links.
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